Help request -- discussions on vid feedback

[frayadjacent]

I'm putting together a panel for vidukon on vid feedback.  I haven't sorted out what the panel will look like, and I know that at Vividcon there have been multiple panels related to feedback and beta processes.  If anyone knows of posts that have talked about what was covered in those panels, how the panelists structured it, etc, I'd love to see them!  Or if anyone put on or attended one of those panels and wants to tell me about it, that would also be awesome!  Also, general posts about feedback/beta processes would be super useful.

(I have looked at the Fanlore pages for VVCs past, and they include links to some people's post-con write-ups, which have been a helpful start for sure.)

Right now I definitely want to include some space to discuss whether/how we can constructively criticise vids for their content and not just their form, but I don't really see myself filling a full time slot with just that.  In addition to that, I was thinking some other things that might be good to do:

 - a group concrit or beta process as part of the panel (I'd ask for volunteers to submit a vid for this, or do one of my own). 

 - people share experiences with feedback/beta that was helpful and talk about why

 - people talk about how they approach being a beta or other ways of giving feedback

Any other ideas?  I'm in brainstorm mode so I'd love to hear anything that might be relevant.  Even thoughts on feedback, praise, and constructive criticism of things other than vids would be super cool.

Comments

[frayadjacent]

How much does feedback matter to us? How's the perspective different as a vidder and a viewer? How do we choose where & how to give feedback? Do we choose platforms based on the kind of feedback we want to encourage? (I do!) If we aren't thinking very much about how we're doing it, should we be?

Thanks, this is really useful for thinking about how to frame this!

I'm especially interested in talking about whether/how people might be interested in changing the ways we give feedback, either by developing skills (how do we even talk about vids, some people say the smartest things and I'm like "OOOOHHH YAY VID THIS MADE ME HAPPY") or even just resolving to do it more. I guess I am basing that on the notion of feedback as fannish currency, though also I remember when I first started vidding that feedback was so important to learning -- I needed it more than I do now, but it was much harder to get than it is now. (I think that the vid mentor and vidding workshop that wiscon_vidparty has been hosting is really fantastic for that.)

On the other hand, I know I as a vidder want most of all just for people to watch (and enjoy) my vids, so things like kudos and reblogs are a good form of feedback that are a lot easier on the viewer.