frayadjacent: The scoobies outside the school bus from "Chosen" (BtVS: Scooby Gang (Chosen))
[personal profile] frayadjacent
I'm vidding a show I don't know as well as the other shows I've vidded.  And I keep learning new things about the show and discovering new feelings and I'm letting myself try stuff out without planning so much in advance and it's fun!  Also I laid down a couple clips at just the spot I was planning (on the bridge, of course) and then I watched six billion times and I like it.  :D  We'll see if that's still the case next time I open up FCP.

Tonight I'm going to try and get a friend hooked on Buffy.  So, time for a poll!

Poll #13754 Best Practices for BtVS Evangelism
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 22


If you were trying to introduce someone to BtVS and only had 2-3 episodes to show them, what would you choose?

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Welcome to the Hellmouth, The Harvest, and The Witch, of course!
4 (18.2%)

A couple of the better S1 episodes, like Angel and Prophecy Girl
3 (13.6%)

The beginning of the Angel arc: Angel, Lie to Me
0 (0.0%)

A few good standalones from any point in the series (e.g., Hush)
11 (50.0%)

Other. I will tell you!
4 (18.2%)

If you picked "other", what do you recommend?


Also I'm in the middle of season 2 of Breaking Bad.  More words to come!



Date: 2013-06-25 06:31 pm (UTC)

calvinahobbes: Calvin holding a cardboard tv-shape up in front of himself (Default)
From: [personal profile] calvinahobbes
I just rewatched select episodes of s1 a few months ago, and, well... the show has not aged gracefully. The first season looks REALLY OLD, intensely 90s, gritty picture quality, everything is dark... I would seriously consider pitching some later episodes, if only to avoid accidentally scaring people away for production reasons. Hush is good. Anne is good too maybe?

Yay for vidding! What are you vidding? (If it's not a secret.)
Date: 2013-06-25 07:43 pm (UTC)

thirdblindmouse: The captain, wearing an upturned pitcher on his head, gazes critically into the mirror. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thirdblindmouse
My instinct is to say WttH/The Harvest + Prophecy Girl, but good stand-alones are how I got into the series.
Date: 2013-06-26 03:55 pm (UTC)

thirdblindmouse: The captain, wearing an upturned pitcher on his head, gazes critically into the mirror. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thirdblindmouse
Angel is an important part of the first season for sure, but Prophecy Girl is when the series really clicked for me, so if I was trying to sell the show to someone starting with the first season, I wouldn't want to leave it out.
Date: 2013-06-25 08:07 pm (UTC)

next_to_normal: Buffy with a bloody scratch on her cheek, on a green background (Buffy tough)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
A few standalones. But which ones... it's hard to choose. I wouldn't go too late into the series, because of spoilers, but S1 is... mostly not great, and you want to capture all the facets of what the show is (drama, horror, comedy, coming-of-age, romance, action, etc.). Maybe Prophecy Girl, Lie To Me, and The Wish?
Date: 2013-06-25 10:44 pm (UTC)

deird1: Fred looking pretty and thoughful (Default)
From: [personal profile] deird1
I wouldn't go with The Wish, simply because so much of it relies on knowing what the normal world they're contrasting it with is like.
Date: 2013-06-26 03:53 pm (UTC)

thirdblindmouse: The captain, wearing an upturned pitcher on his head, gazes critically into the mirror. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thirdblindmouse
I don't think it does, entirely. It was the first or second Buffy episode I saw, and it did pique my interest.
Date: 2013-06-25 08:21 pm (UTC)

sanguinity: woodcut by M.C. Escher, "Snakes" (Default)
From: [personal profile] sanguinity
No positive recommendations, because I don't know the show well enough, but seconding others' reservations about the beginning of S1: that season has a really weak beginning, and it utterly failed to interest me. I continued watching in spite of the beginning of S1, as opposed to because of.
Date: 2013-06-25 09:30 pm (UTC)

timetobegin: (defiance | amanda)
From: [personal profile] timetobegin
depends how objective someone is to watching new shows, to be honest. I think the first three episodes aren't THAT bad really.
Date: 2013-06-25 10:49 pm (UTC)

timetobegin: (trek | unf bones)
From: [personal profile] timetobegin
Yeah

i mean i kinda go i'm going to watch this show, i'm going to start from the begining and i'll give it X episodes to draw me in, but i know my sister is like IF ITS NOT GOOD IN EPISODE 1 I'M NOT WATCHING EVER.
Date: 2013-06-26 02:55 am (UTC)

timetobegin: (teen wolf | jackson)
From: [personal profile] timetobegin
ahaha yeah, some people need it to hook them straight away.

I usually stand by 3-5 episodes rule UNLESS my flist is raving about it and then i might give it more time. the whole first season of parks and recs kinda sucks but it gets soooo good later.

I don't understand not being invested lol.
Date: 2013-06-26 09:30 pm (UTC)

timetobegin: (parks and rec | leslie)
From: [personal profile] timetobegin
ahaha Lost Girl season 1 is great, but later it gets annoying. Farscape....never gets better but it gets more addictive!!!

Leslie is the besttttt
Date: 2013-06-25 09:35 pm (UTC)

littleheaven: (Buffy Dancing by <lj user="dignity20s_bo)
From: [personal profile] littleheaven
My sister recruited me with (by pure random accident - she found some eps on a video tape) Beauty & The Beasts and The Zeppo. Not the best eps (although I do love The Zeppo), but they did the trick.

I'd definitely go for a few good standalones. I really liked Earshot, Hush and maybe Fool For Love, as a great look back at the whole slayers-though-history thing. Gah, it's hard to pick just three.
Date: 2013-06-26 09:51 pm (UTC)

littleheaven: (Buffy Dancing by <lj user="dignity20s_bo)
From: [personal profile] littleheaven
I think it worked, because it was Xander being an outsider looking in, as I was, being a new viewer. I've always had a soft spot for the more humorous episodes, actually. Hence why I found a lot of season 6 & 7 hard going.
Date: 2013-06-25 10:11 pm (UTC)

rebcake: Joyce with Axe: Not in the brochure (joyce_axe)
From: [personal profile] rebcake
While I adore the episodes wherein the characters are not exactly themselves — Halloween, Band Candy, Something Blue, OMWF etc. — those don't necessarily grab people new to the show.

For Dad-type people, I always start with "A New Man". For littler kids (10 and up, I'd say) "Halloween" can still work well. For people I know will like Spike, there's no harm in starting with "School Hard", amirite? If I'm confident of my audience, I'll try the 1-2-3 of "Pangs", "Something Blue", and "Hush". If they aren't hooked by then, I'm not sure what would do it.

I watched out-of-order, but I do think S1 has a good proportion of good episodes. If only it were prettier! The first 5 minutes (Darla!) would have grabbed me, had I seen it before S2.
Date: 2013-06-26 03:34 pm (UTC)

next_to_normal: (slayer barbie)
From: [personal profile] next_to_normal
Oh, if she liked Dollhouse, then maybe one of the early Faith eps might be good to show her?
Date: 2013-06-26 12:02 am (UTC)

jetpack_monkey: (Willow/Xander - Buddies)
From: [personal profile] jetpack_monkey
I'm probably just going to echo my peers here. The problem with starting at the beginning is that the beginnings of shows are not the shows. They are like the teenager version of the show and they are still figuring shit out.

Going with major turning point eps can be tricky, since the impact hinges on involvement with the characters.

With that said, I may be in the minority, but as much as I love Hush, it's a terrible introduction to the show. Its tone is very different, you don't get as much banter, and a lot of it hinges on interpersonal relationship continuity. Also, you have to explain why Spike is tied to a chair.

If you know your friend very well, figure out what elements of the show they'll respond to. Pick two episodes that really bring that across and another unrelated show-being-show episode like School Hard or Homecoming or Earshot.
Edited Date: 2013-06-26 12:04 am (UTC)
Date: 2013-06-26 03:21 am (UTC)

zanthinegirl: (Destiny Spuffy)
From: [personal profile] zanthinegirl
When I've actually done this I show Hush, Fool for Love, and Once More with Feeling. Very different episodes, but extremely well done stand-alones. I've yet to show these to someone and not have them hooked by the time the curtains close on a kiss, God knows!

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